Startprobleme dank USB-DSL-Modem

  • Hallo!

    Ich habe vor 2 Wochen meinen PC umgerüstet von einem AMD Athlon 2.220+, 512MB RAM, auf einen AMD Sempron 3.300+, MSI K8T Board und 1.024 RAM.

    Laufwerke sind die selben geblieben, genau wie Grafikkarte (MSI GForceFX 5700) und die Soundkarte (SB Audigy 2) und das USB-DSL-Modem (Acer Surf-USB).

    Und genau dieses Modem macht seit dem Umbau Probleme beim Systemstart. Meistenteils bleibt der Rechner an der Stelle hängen, wo das System (XP Prof SP2) auf den Desktop umschalten müsste. Der Bootvorgang wird erst dann fortgesetzt, wenn ich kurz das USB-Kabel vom Modem abziehe. Danach funktioniert alles wieder so, wie es sollte.

    Vorher bleibt die Bereitschaftsanzeige des Modems aus. Auch längeres Warten hilft da nicht. Selbst in den abgesicherten Modus kommt man nicht, wenn man das Modemkabel nicht abzieht.

    Treiber sind alle aktuell. Wobei das bei dem Modem als relativ anzusehen ist, da es dort seit ein paar Jahren kein Update mehr gab...

    Hat von Euch jemand eine Idee, warum seit dem Umbau das Modem beim Systemstart in 99 von 100 Fällen nicht direkt aktiviert werden kann?

    Ich bin für jeden Tipp dankbar!

    Gruß,

    Cineatic


    PS: Auswahl eines anderen USB-Anschluss brachte übrigens auch nichts

  • Wenn ich das deinen Post richtig entnehme hast du ja ein neues Mainboard verbaut und so wie ich das verstanden habe hast du nicht frisch installiert. Ich hab bis jetzt so gut wie noch nie erlebt das Windows einfach ein neues Mainboard schluckt, selbst wenn man alle Treiber etc. vermeintlich richtig installiert.

    Greetz
    Peacemaker2000

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    Adding more features adds more code and thus adds new bugs.

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  • ARCHIVE_Cineatic, bedank Dich für den Fehler bei MSI.

    Das ist ein Board Problem, ich kenne das nur zu gut, bin PC-Techniker und habe selber auch ein MSI mit dem selbigen Problem. Wenn ich mein USB Stick vergesse raus zu nehmen kein Windoof.

    Für mein Board gibts dafür auch noch kein BIOS Update welches den Fehler behebt, aber schau mal für deins obs da was gibt.


    :pfct:

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  • Da Du einen frei im Handel gekauften Sempron 3300+ gekauft haben dürftest, wird es wohl eines der folgenden Sockel 754-Mainboards sein. Unter deren Namen habe ich Dir den jew. Link zu den Bios-Update-Files gesetzt:

    K8T Neo-FIS2R (Gigabit-LAN, Firewire, 2x SerialATA RAID)
    K8T Neo-FSR (Gigabit-LAN, SerialATA RAID)

    http://msi-computer.de/produkte/main_…=317&Seite=BIOS


    K8T Neo-V

    http://msi-computer.de/produkte/main_…php?Prod_id=488

    Zudem solltest Du folgende Seite besuchen und folgende Treiber herunterladen und installieren:

    VIA PATA/SATA RAID 32Bit Treiber,
    VIA Hyperion 4in1 V5.04a,

    und vor allem auch diese:

    VIA USB 2.0 v2.58,
    WinXP USB 2.0 Update


    Ggf. Windowsupdate laufen lassen und Patches installieren.


    Ferner solltest Du für das USB-Modem noch checken, ob eine neue Firmwareversion und/oder Treiber vorhanden ist/sind.


    Nun sollte wieder alles funzen.

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    "Ich bin unschuldig, ich bin Amerikaner"

    Zitat:

    Baphomet's Fluch 1

  • Hallo!

    Leider habe ich mich da etwas zu früh gefreut. Der Rechner ist gerade beim Start wieder stehen geblieben. Die Treiber haben also nicht geholfen.

    Es läuft wohl wirklich darauf hinaus, dass ich mir ein internes Modem zulegen muss, damit ich den Rechner auch mal wieder unbeaufsichtigt starten kann, ohne das ich jedesmal das "Kabel rein / Kabel raus"-Spiel spielen muss.

    Gruß,

    Cineatic

  • BIOS-Update eingespielt?

    Firmware des Modems aktualisiert?

    Hängt das Modem direkt am USB-Anschluss des Mainboards, oder an einem aktiven/passivn HUB?

    Modem schon mal an USB-Port 1 oder generell mal an einen anderen Port vdes Mainboards gehangen?

    Wieviele USB-Geräte hast Du noch angeschlossen?

    Hier noch ein Abschnitt aus der VIA-USB-Faq:


    My USB devices stop working suddenly or will not work at all.

    1) Check that USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. is enabled in your bios. Consult your motherboard manual to see how to do this.

    2) Windows 95, first edititon and Windows NT does not support USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. . All other operating systems have their own USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. driver built in.

    3) Check your motherboard manufacturer's web site to see if they have a BIOS The Basic Input/Output System is the program that microprocessors use to start computer systems. It manages data flow between the computers operating system and attached devices such as the hard disk, video card, keyboard, mouse, and printer. that provides more power to the USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. .

    4) Make sure that you do not have a device or many devices that require more power than your USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. port can supply. A standard onboard USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. has 450 to 500 mA of power (this is the USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. standard). Examples of power used by USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. devices:

    Microsoft USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. mouse - 100mA

    Saitek Cyborg 3D joystick - 20mA

    Kodak DC4800 camera - 2mA

    USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. network card - 180mA

    Cannon Scanner N65OU uses 500mA of power just plugged in and up to 800mA when scanning

    If all these USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. devices are used at the one time they would need 1102mA of power but the total provided by the motherboard USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. is only 500mA. The only way to use many USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. devices at once is to get a Powered USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. hub. A powered USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. hub uses 0mA and has up to 5000mA available. If you want to or need to use many USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. devices at a time, you have to get a powered hub. Some devices like scanners, even on their own need a powered hub. They can run off the motherboard, but it is not recommended if they use over 400mA.

    To find out how much power your devices are using - go into System Properties from Control Panel. Go into Device Manager under Hardware and under the tab for Universal Serial Bus Controllers. Go into USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. Root hub and look under power. It will list the mA for devices plugged in. There will be a USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. root hub for every two ports you have available on your board. This will vary between 2 and 6.
    5) Other things that will effect power to the USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. are 1) BIOS The Basic Input/Output System is the program that microprocessors use to start computer systems. It manages data flow between the computers operating system and attached devices such as the hard disk, video card, keyboard, mouse, and printer. settings made by motherboard manufacturers 2) Power Supply - an insufficient power supply will reduce power to the USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. 3) CPU speed - the higher the power consumption of the CPU, the less power will be supplied to the USB Universal System Bus is a "plug-and-play" interface that consolidates the present serial port configuration on the back of the PC into a single port from which up to 127 peripheral devices can be daisy chain connected. With USB, a new device can be added to a computer without having to add an adapter card or even turn the computer off. USB supports joysticks, printers, monitors, and telephony. There now exists two standards of USB. To understand the differences, please read this article. and 4) the more peripherals you have in the PC will reduce the power to the USB.


    Könnte also evt. ein Power-Problem sein, wenn zu viele USB-Geräte laufen.

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    "Ich bin unschuldig, ich bin Amerikaner"

    Zitat:

    Baphomet's Fluch 1

  • Hallo!

    Insgesamt sind 3 USB-Geräte angeschlossen. Flachbettscanner, Drucker und das Modem. Bei einem 470 Watt-Netzteil dürfte es da keine Stromengpässe geben, zumal beim Start auch nur das Modem aktiviert wird.

    Das BIOS-Update verkneife ich mir, da sich dass noch in der Beta-Phase befindet. Und in dem bereich mag ich keine Experimente.

    Firmware- bzw. Treiberupdate gibt es für das Modem nicht.

    Wenn ich das Modem nach dem Systemstart anschließe, bzw. das Kabel beim Hängenbleiben kurz abziehe und wieder anschließe, funktioniert es auch wieder einwandfrei. Selbst bei einem Reboot startet der Rechner in der Regel durch. Nur wenn das System komplett ausgeschaltet wurde, gibts meistenteils das Problem.

    Gruß,

    Cineatic

  • Die Versorgung der USB-Geräte erfolgt ja nicht direkt durch das Netzteil, sondern über die USB-Ports der Hauptplatine, d.h., daß es sein kann, das Deine USB-Geräte beim Rechnerstart kurzzeitig mehr Spannung benötigen, als die Ports des Mainboards liefern können - vielleicht kann Dir ja jemand einmal einen aktiven USB-Hub leihen, der über ein eigenes Netzteil gespeist wird...

    signatur_tie-fighter.jpg
        
    "Ich bin unschuldig, ich bin Amerikaner"

    Zitat:

    Baphomet's Fluch 1

  • Ich versteh nicht warum einige Leute immer Angst vor BIOS-Updates haben. Selbst wenn sie als "Beta" bezeichnet werden heißt das ja nicht das sie ungetestet sind. Diese "Beta"-Updates beheben nunmal auch viele Probleme und ich denke mal das dies so ein Problem ist was durch ein Update behoben werden kann. Hat man ja schon öfters erlebt das die USB-Ports auf den Mainboards rumspacken und durch ein Update gefixt wurden.

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    Adding more features adds more code and thus adds new bugs.

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